Number of posts : 259 Localisation : New Zealand Registration date : 2006-12-01
Subject: 186 Cast Iron barrel compression ratio Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:09 pm
Do any experts have any thoughts about maximum CR for an old cast iron barreled 186 race motor? Currently 12.3:1 geometric, with 175 degree exhaust opening running Avgas. But difficult to get carburation right. Granted Taupo at 1650ft ASL, temp 4 -16 degrees poses some challenge ! It has been suggested that my CR is too high ? We ran 14.3:1 in longstroke 125.
dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
Subject: Re: 186 Cast Iron barrel compression ratio Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:27 pm
about 8 or 9 to 1 seems the norm, aprox 23cc in the bowl part of the head, I always tend to think that raising the comp is the easiest way to get a bit of extra power but has the highest risks of things going wrong,
john bass
Number of posts : 1748 Age : 95 Localisation : Bensberg, Germany Registration date : 2006-12-06
Subject: Thermal Efficiency... Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:19 am
Raising the compression ratio does bring increased power: at 8:1 CR the thermal efficiency is 56% and at 14:1 it is 65% -- an increase of 9% but with increase of CR there is an increase of engine friction drag which bringswith it a power loss to the mechanical drag. So there is a trade-off of >CR - power loss to drag .... Reduced engine friction drag is of course the tuner´s top prioroity.
Goes without saying, Ignition timing has to be modified with change of CR....
Thermal efficiency -- according to the Air Standard Efficiency curve -- at 9:1 CR is 58% and at 12.3 CR is 63% -- 5% better burning-of-fuel use .... ..... and if the fuel:air ratio is weakened by 10% lean there will be a 5% improvement ín thermal efficiency ...
The latter is why a 2-Stroke engine -- particularly a Bantam Racer -- goes so much bettrer just before it seizes.
This why most of us -- in those good old days -- ran our engines about 10 -- 15% rich....
With the latest Racing-Engine-Management-Systems where all engine data is monitored the A/F ratio and ingition timing can be rapidly modified to momentarilly increase power to that Lean extra punch -- for that bit of extra acceleration -- and as quickly return to `Safe´ parameters before disaster occurs.
REGARDS THE LATTER -- THE Racing Bantams Don´t have that ENGINE MmANAGEMENT System yet -- DO THEY??
CHEERS!
JayBee.
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Subject: Re: 186 Cast Iron barrel compression ratio