I am so sad to hear of the loss of these two guys, I didn't know them well, we met at Eastern Centre meetings, and I want to pass on my thoughts to their respected loved ones, notwithstanding Ted, always the backbone of the 70's eastern centre, it is a truly sad time and brings into sharp focus our own mortality, but hey, lets not be sad let us celebrate their contribution to life's experiences and the friends we met passing through it, I know I do, the bantam club was my club, and I was proud to be a part of it and the off the wall individuals that made up the BRC.