Attention Mike Powell

Mike,

It seems Bassy and I are keen to get to the bottom of the Shuttleworth Trophy mystery. Therefore, please can you answer JB's post where he asks if the CBs initials are in interlinked circles or not.

meantime I'll write to Roy Bacon, hope he is still with us.

Cheers, pete

Last word -- promise!
Further research has it that the "C.B & S" enclosed in three spheres much like a pawnbokers´ balls was the logotype of Charles Boyton & Son Ltd, silversmiths of London who made silver boxes, candlesticks, manicure sets, mustard pots and sauce boats, during the period 1907 to 1919... which suggests Charles Boyton co... might not have made the Bantam `Shuttleworth´ trophy after all.
Mum Shuttleworth set up the trust fund for her late son in 1944 but the Shuttleworth lads might have been into motor sports long before that and being relatively rich they might well have demanded of C.Boyton that he come out of retirement to make the trophy at any cost.
It will be interesting for us all if Roy Bacon has some info... on this -- that unravels the mystery.
Cheers!
Aye! JayBee.
Just been reading an article in a scientific journal that reckons Einstein was puzzled at what the Force of Gravity really was ... Could measure its effect easilly enough, the puzzle was what caused it to be...?
If that cause vanishes the Bantams will at last be flying! JB.

[quote="John Bass"]Last word -- promise! quote]

NO CHANCE

Oh Ned!
Don´t forget the force of gravity when you trip over the pub doormat ...
Go well OLD buddy -- and keep well!
Aye. JayBee.

John if it wasn't for gravity her indoors might still have the same form she had when I married her. So you could say it's gravity that drives me down the pub.

Ned!
Apparently it happens to panes of glass. The glass becomes `amorphous´and sinks. So that the bottom is thicker than the top...
Takes about 100 years with glass -- if you get my meaning.
Take care or you might get amorphousized!
Aye!
JayBee

I believe, Mr Bass , that you are referring to a myth, glass is claimed to be a liquid because some people believe no first order phase transition exists.

More recent studies have shown it does and the reason for old windows having thicker glass at the bottom is the result of the crown manufacturing process and the materials used.

Only the advent of the modern float glass production method produces panes of equal thickness.

Ooh! Didnt know that either.

James, tell us about this crown manufacturing process please.

Did you work for Pilkington's at any time?

Thanks

pete

James Cook wrote:

the reason for old windows having thicker glass at the bottom is the result of the crown manufacturing process and the materials used.

James I don't understand that. What's to stop the glazier fitting the glass with the thick end at the top.?

Pete, Never employed at Pilkingtons, its the result of an over dinner conversation with a university professor, specialist in materials and adhesives I think, some years ago so I will tell you as much as I recall but "caveat emptor"

The crown glass process was a bit like making a pizza base, a lump of molten glass was rolled, blown, pressed flat and then spun into a disc. This was then cut into panes. This results in a sheet thicker at the edges, they think the glaziers then installed them heavy edge to the bottom.

I asked Neds question and dont recall an answer however the earliest remaining examples of glass from Roman times and windows somewhere in France?? dont demonstrate any flow.

However, what is true is you cant tickle yourself !!

James