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+20mm_tribsa joe93 Pete Tuke Mick Potter Ned bkirkwood Derek les2012 Jimmie ptibbitt125 john bass alan johnSbantam Edward Pickering mjpowell mscutt ted tonydavis ROBBIE dansofield550 24 posters |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:09 pm | |
| thanks for that alan, i'll try and get a later hub, good job i didnt buy a rim for it!
cant see any on ebay though, | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:46 am | |
| just wondered , are the early hubs no good because of the weak sprocket mounting? or is there other reasons too? | |
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ted
Number of posts : 184 Registration date : 2007-08-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:31 am | |
| Hi the later hubs have a flange that centres the spocket, as well as being cast and a lot stronger | |
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mjpowell
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Lincoln England Registration date : 2006-12-09
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:48 am | |
| Yes John - got my number of spokes wrong way round.
Thanks for your correction...
Mike | |
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john bass
Number of posts : 1748 Age : 95 Localisation : Bensberg, Germany Registration date : 2006-12-06
| Subject: Safety by Alan... Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:55 am | |
| Alan mentioning "...for your saftey ..." reminded of the Wobbly mishap at Woodlands, Cadwell... It was the FRONT hub in Colin Aldridge´s case.
Might be useful to mention that Colin skimmed the brake drum and -- in my opinion -- overtightened the spokes. Maybe I was at fault in boasting of rebuilding my own wheels that had him do his own. Before practice I´d tapped the spokes and said they seemed excessively tight... The drum just disintergrated at Barn corner & with Colin´s luck he ended up in a pile of hay.
Boring nostalgia --- Yaaaawwwwnnnn! | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:48 am | |
| glad i was told , its good to be told , i , as a new comer need guidance for this sort of thing, maybe the rules could be re-worded to say bantam hub to used and 40 hole only,
i have a 17" morad rim on the front , and need a back rim, would a 2.5 rear be okay with a 2.15 or should i really have a 3 on the back? | |
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ptibbitt125
Number of posts : 282 Age : 71 Localisation : Cambridge Registration date : 2006-12-04
| Subject: Rear sprocket retaining bolts Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:51 pm | |
| Hi Danny,
On Page 2 I think Alan mentioned that we use 1/4" BSF cap head screws. I think this is incorrect, as I have always used 1/4" UNC - far cheaper and more readily available I would have thought.
All the best with the project
Pete | |
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alan Admin
Number of posts : 453 Age : 70 Localisation : Mexborough Registration date : 2006-12-01
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:40 am | |
| Pete is correct, But what I did is run a 1/4 bsf tap down the threads, then if you accidently in future cross thread at some time, then you can run a 6mm metric down it and save the day! Regards, Alan | |
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tonydavis
Number of posts : 156 Age : 64 Localisation : london - ex East midlands Registration date : 2006-12-01
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:05 am | |
| - alan wrote:
- Pete is correct,
But what I did is run a 1/4 bsf tap down the threads, then if you accidently in future cross thread at some time, then you can run a 6mm metric down it and save the day! Regards, Alan was gonna say 1/4 bsf myself but the you've reminded me where the tapping out tip came from how you keeping Alan? see you sometime next season mate | |
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mjpowell
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Lincoln England Registration date : 2006-12-09
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:28 am | |
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BSA Bantam rear hub D7 on ebay .... | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:11 am | |
| yeah spotted that already, i've also seen a hub that has spokes that are the same length on both sides , are these hubs any good for me? or is the odd sided type what i need? | |
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mjpowell
Number of posts : 1074 Localisation : Lincoln England Registration date : 2006-12-09
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:31 am | |
| Dan the D7 hub on ebay is what you want.. 40 spoke long and short.
You may of come across a D10/14 sports, full width hub .. 40 spoke all short. Look nice but have the same small brake, and the hub just adds to your unsprung weight.
Mike | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:43 am | |
| whats the general thinking on piston to cylinder clearance ? i'm using the iron barrel and suzuki 185 piston i've seen between 0.004" and 0.002" i have a wiseco piston by the way,
also , on the pictures of tom snows engine the transfer ports have a bridging part, is this necessary on an iron barrel, the width of mine doesn't look like it'll be needed. im guessing they are to keep the rings from snagging
thanks in advance . dan | |
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mscutt
Number of posts : 96 Registration date : 2011-10-21
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:26 am | |
| Hi Dan
assuming you have a standard 64mm wiseco suzuki piston I would suggest you bore and hone the cylinder to 64.00mm
You will then have the clearances designed by the piston manufacturer.
As it is a forged piston it would not be a good idea to use a larger bore size as the cold clearances would be on the large side.
Hopefully when hot it will be round and a good fit but there's only one way to find out !
On your iron barrel you will not need to bridge the transfers as port widths can be around 66% of the bore diameter without needing a bridge providing they are well rounded.
Mick | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:41 am | |
| thanks mick, all done now, just matching the posts in the crank case, then onto the head.
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:56 pm | |
| notice that most bantams are running silencers, whats the db limit i should be aiming for? | |
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ROBBIE
Number of posts : 377 Localisation : Swanscombe Kent UK Registration date : 2006-12-25
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:28 pm | |
| Hi 105 db is max buy try and aim for about 98 99 db that's what my bike is | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:15 am | |
| thanks robbie, not sure about the buy bit! , too tight for that ! made one instead , found a lot of drawings and dimensions on the forum and worked out an average between them all ,and came across an exhaust from a gilera , a bit of cutting and sticking back together i wound up with this ....... not very good pictures , i took them on the phone | |
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Jimmie
Number of posts : 166 Registration date : 2011-07-25
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:34 am | |
| Nice job. Any possibility of photos from other side? Did you fab the expansion box or graft an existing one on to the header pipe? | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
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john bass
Number of posts : 1748 Age : 95 Localisation : Bensberg, Germany Registration date : 2006-12-06
| Subject: Neato! Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:34 pm | |
| Neato! That exhaust pipe looks really good! Congratulation!! | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:01 am | |
| i've been modifying the clutch basket, just giving it a trial fitting and i have movement in and out (end float) of the basket when the nut is tightened up , this is with out the plates and springs etc, is this correct ?
i have the early type with bronze thrust bush by the way. thanks dan | |
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dansofield550
Number of posts : 367 Localisation : gravesend kent Registration date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:31 pm | |
| i've converted the centre bearing of the clutch to a roller bearing and made new thrust washers and the play has all gone now, im guessing its not ment to have 0.005" play!
turning my attention to the springs now, it seems a lot put extra springs in(9) this seems an easy mod but , would it not be easier to just up the poundage of the 6 already there?
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ted
Number of posts : 184 Registration date : 2007-08-23
| Subject: Re: a new member and new builder plus progress so far Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:41 pm | |
| The bike looks real good you are making a lot of progress. I will give MY opinion on your quires, the clutch will seen lose when you have on plates & springs in. The conversion to ball race sounds like it could be OK but it is not clear whether you have made the top hat bush or the thrust washer into a ball. I use a needle roller for thrust and keep the bronze top hat. It is also worth remembering the clutch gets very very HOT!!!!!!!!!! Don’t let me comments slow you down and you are welcome at the pub. | |
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